Agenda and draft minutes

Conservation Advisory Group - Tuesday, 12th November, 2019 7.00 pm

Venue: Room 6, Civic Centre, Silver Street, Enfield, EN1 3XA. View directions

Contact: Andy Higham 

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Apologies for absence were received from D Stacey (Bush Hill Park Conservation Area Study Group), Councillor L Rawlings and Councillor A Brown, also from P Fisk (Forty Hill and Bulls Cross Study Group),  D Gandhi (Federation Of Enfield Residents and Allied Association), A. Bishop-Laggett (Federation of Enfield Residents and Allied Associations), G Morgan (Friends of Lakes Estate),  R Wilson (Hadley Wood Conservation Area Study Group), D Holmes (Enfield Town Conservation Area Study Group) and Andy Higham (Head of Development Management).  Councillor Orhan did not attend the meeting as there was confusion about where the meeting was to be held.




Membersof the ConservationAdvisory Groupare invitedto identify any disclosablepecuniary,other pecuniaryor non-pecuniaryinterests relevantto itemson theagenda.


There were no declarations of interest.


MINUTES pdf icon PDF 162 KB

To confirm the Minutes of the Conservation Advisory Group that took place on Tuesday 1 October 2019. 


The minutes of the meeting held on 1 October 2019 were agreed.

It was noted that Clarendon Cottage, 17 Gentleman’s Row is on the agenda under item 6.


Heritage Briefing

To receive a briefing on heritage matters.  – To be circulated separately. 


Christine White, Heritage and Urban Design Manager circulated a briefing note which is attached to the minutes.


The following areas were covered:

  • Call for Projects Campaign
  • Historic England Heritage at Risk Register 2019
  • Broomfield House
  • Draft London Plan
  • National Design Guidance


And the following issues were raised:


Call for Projects Campaign

The Heritage Strategy was launched at an event on 15 October 2019.   This was a joint launch with the National Heritage Lottery Fund who announced that Enfield will be one of thirteen funding focusing areas across the country where it will help applicants meet local needs.


As part of this, the Council have launched an associated Community ‘Call for Projects’.  Individuals and groups are asked to come forward with projects to investigate and celebrate heritage across Enfield. We would be working with the Lottery Fund to develop projects which were being collated by Harriet Bell (Heritage Projects Officer).


Members are asked to put forward any project ideas to by Wednesday 15 January 2020. Messages to be titled ‘Call for Projects’. John West suggested that this was an opportunity for study groups to put forward a project for each area. Members were reminded that projects would need to meet the lottery website funding criteria. There is a wide definition for projects, not just building projects and could include archives/ collections.  Although it appears to be a tight timescale, funding would be over a five- year period.  Further details on the ‘Call for Projects’ campaign can be found on


It was suggested that Planning officers are made aware of the Heritage Strategy and applications that may come in for this project


Historic England Heritage at Risk Register 2019 -

Enfield has its own Heritage at Risk Action plan and it was noted that recent efforts had been particularly focused on Broomfield House and Stables, Palmers Green and Charity Hall and School House, Edmonton.


Conservation Areas – It was mentioned that the Enfield Society would like there to be a study group for the east area of Enfield.  An East Enfield Group had been established and it was hoped that a representative could be identified soon.


Draft London Plan

The Planning Inspectorate issued their Report of the Examination in Public of the London Plan 2019 to the Mayor of London on 8 October 2019.

The Inspectors report sets out a number, of recommendations.  Key recommendations of relevance to Enfield relate to – Green belt review, reduction of overall housing target, including small sites housing target, Additional land for industrial land, storage and distributions uses. Although there is a reduction of overall housing target it was thought the analysis of the need for housing was correct. The final plan is expected to be published Feb/March 2020.


National Design Codes

It was noted that local planning authorities will be expected to develop their own design codes or guides.

It was confirmed that Enfield were currently looking at this.


Church Hill Site, Winchmore Hill

To receive a presentation from Andrew Porter of Ashton Porter Architects on proposals for the site on Church Hill, Winchmore Hill.


Andrew Porter of Ashton Porter Architects presented the proposals for this site.  He had also attended the previous meeting of CAG.


At the last meeting CAG were happy with the principles of the new design but wanted clear details specified in the conditions for approval, and removal of permitted development rights. It was also stressed that CAG’s favourable consideration of the proposal was based on Ashton Porter remaining as the architect.


Andrew Porter showed the drawings that had been sent to the case officer.

The following was noted

  • The plans show the existing and proposed elevations – and as previously mentioned the new timber cladding would be black. The eaves line shown emphasises, that the ‘stepping downhill’ is maintained.
  • The images shown are in line with details previously requested - regarding the type of window glazing which give a contemporary feel. Sliding doors would be of high quality.
  • The eave details show gutters are hidden where the wall meets timber cladding.
  • Landscaping would be as green as possible to ‘soften the area. The front garden is laid to lawn and would also have a green area where there is the car parking area.


AGREED: CAG continued to support the scheme and thanked the architect – Andrew Porter for presenting the proposals.


Planning Applications and Listed Building Applications for Discussion pdf icon PDF 7 MB

To receive a report on planning and listed building applications for discussion.  (Attached B)


  1. 7 St Johns Terrace, Enfield EN2 9AQ (REF: 19/03255/HOU)


The application proposed is for a single storey rear extension and front entrance porch. Proposals include replacement windows. It was not known what proposals were for the front door. 


AGREED CAG objected to the proposals for the front porch which was not in keeping with the area. They also objected to the proposed extension being across the whole width of the property. It was suggested that any future application should mention proposals for the front door.


  1. Cockfosters Underground Station Cockfosters Road Barnet EN4 0DZ (REF: 19/03243/LBC)


The application proposes replacement of existing non-original platform lights with heritage lighting (8 no columns 16 no lamps) and associated works. The proposed lighting columns will replace existing lamps circa 1990s and are based on the original lighting column design for the station.  It was confirmed that we would have to use LED light bulbs which would attempt to match as close as possible to the original.  The columns will be positioned exactly where earlier ones were placed.


AGREED CAG welcomed and approved the scheme and wished to pass on their thanks to the Heritage Officer for their help.


  1. Clarendon Cottage 17 Gentlemans Row Enfield EN2 6PT (REF: 19/01693/LBC)


The application is for the repair and repainting of external woodwork to front and rear of this Grade II listed building.  The building is currently painted in an inappropriate modern black gloss paint.  The proposed paint is microporous and near black in colour.


It was noted that existing paint would need to be stripped completely before repainting, however this should be done without the use of ‘hot air strippers’. Before work commences a paint analysis for some areas should be undertaken. Bridget Pereira to include this in conditions.


AGREED CAG approved the application but requested that a paint analysis be undertaken prior to work commencing.


  1. Garnault  80 Bulls Cross Enfield EN2 9HD

(REF: 19/03369/LBC)


This application is for the erection of a single storey rear extension and raising the existing ground level to the side elevation. This is a Grade 2 1860’s villa in the Forty Hall Conservation area. The last application was refused on 31 July 2019 and an appeal against this decision has been lodged.  CAG had previously raised the issue of the width and depth and height of the proposed extension. This application shows a reduced depth of extension. It was thought proportions should have been kept to existing conservatory.  The bulk of the building would be excessive.


AGREED CAG objected to the application because of the size and bulk of the proposed building


  1. Walker Primary School Waterfall Road London N14 7EG (REF: 19/03498/CND)


Permission was granted subject to conditions on the 23 April 2019 for the demolition of existing school buildings and erection of part 1 part 2 storey replacement school building with associated parking, landscaping and erection of temporary classrooms for the duration of the construction.  This proposal follows on from this and relates to external finishing.


The school is in  ...  view the full minutes text for item 6.



Toreceivefor informationfeedbackfrom theCAG Chairfrom PlanningCommittee meetings.


The Planning committee meeting of the 5 November 2019 considered the application for Travis Perkins, 699 Green Lanes. The proposal was agreed but with conditions set.



To receive an update from the conservation officer on cases discussed at previous CAG meetings.  (Attachment C)


Received and noted the Conservation Officer’s update on items discussed at recent Conservation Advisory Group meetings.


Former Middlesex University Trent Park Campus, Trent Park Country Park Snakes Lane, Enfield, EN4 (REF: 19/02205/NMA) –

Granted. Plans amended broadly in line with CAG’s comments


Clarendon Cottage, 17 Gentlemen’s Row, Enfield EN2 6PT (REF:19/02293/FUL) – Permission granted with conditions following receipt of requested information in line with CAG’s comments.


31 – 33 Church Street, Enfield EN2 6AJ (REF:19/02117/FUL) – Permission granted with conditions.


Commercial Premises, 105 Chase Side, Enfield, EN2 6NL

CAG had no objection to the application subject to conditions – This decision is pending.



Conservation Areas, Listed Building Applications and Appeals Determined pdf icon PDF 364 KB

To receive a list of conservation areas, listed building applications and appeals determined.  (Attached D)



Toenablemembers of the ConservationAdvisoryGroup to bringup urgentmatters not covered elsewhere on theagenda


  • Oakwood Parade, a dairy has been turned into a restaurant -Bramley Road, with a huge extension. This is not in keeping with the 1930’s style of the parade. Bridget Pereira will bring this matter to the attention of the Enforcement team.
  • 23 Camlet Way Hadley Wood.  Concern express about an application (03692) which would result in a loss of trees, and also loss of verdant backdrop to the conservation area. The case officer is to be asked to consider this.
  • Whitewebbs – the Council is looking to sell lease for this facility.  Mark Bradbury (Director of Property & Economy) has been contacted by members of Enfield Society about the heritage assets (Grade 2 listed buildings) that are at this site.
  • Demolition at Sloemans Farm – update requested re barn.
  • The Maize Inn – Southgate/ Chase Side update requested from Enforcement team.




To note the date agreed for the next meeting: 


·         Tuesday 10 December 2019


Calendar of meeting dates (Attached E). 


The next meeting will be held on Tuesday 10 December 2019 Mr D Stacey will have returned but as the agenda needs to be set in November. J West will Chair the meeting. J West asked members to let him know of any developments/ applications for consideration. 




CAG BRIEFING  12 November 2019



‘Call for Projects’ Campaign


·         The Heritage Strategy was successfully launched at a celebratory event held at the Dugdale Centre on 15th October. 


·         ‘Making Enfield: Heritage Strategy 2019-24’ was developed together with local community groups. It gives further guidance on existing council policy on heritage and will be a supplementary planning document to the Local Plan.


·         This was a joint launch with the National Heritage Lottery Fund’s, who announced that Enfield will be one of thirteen areas across the country where it will help applicants meet local needs.


·         The Council have launched an associated Community ‘Call for Projects’ campaign. This is a great opportunity for individuals and groups to come forward with projects to investigate and celebrate heritage across Enfield.


·         Project ideas can be e-mailed to by Wednesday 15 January 2020. The message should be marked ‘Call for projects’.


·         The Council will help groups develop their ideas by

Ø  sending groups useful sources of information about Enfield

Ø  inviting groups to a workshop with an NLHF officer, to give you guidance on how to apply

Ø  hosting a session three months after the ‘Call for Projects’ deadline, covering common problems with developing funding applications


·         Further details on the ‘Call for Projects’ campaign can be found on



Historic England Heritage at Risk Register 2019


·         Historic England’s Heritage at Risk Register 2019 was published on 17 October 2019. The Register identifies sites most at risk of being lost as a result of neglect, decay or inappropriate development.

·         In Enfield there are 11 buildings / structures, 2 places of worship, 3 registered historic parks and 2 Conservation Areas on the at risk register. Further details of the Enfield entries will be given at the meeting.

·         Enfield has its own Heritage at Risk Action Plan and work closely with Historic England, property owners, developers, funders and communities to find creative solutions for these complex sites.


·         Recent efforts have been particularly focused on Broomfield House and Stables, Palmers Green and Charity Hall and School House, Edmonton.



Broomfield House


·         Following extensive work steered by the Partnership Board, the Council are carrying out feasibility work into the viability of delivering the reconstruction of the external shell of Broomfield House with funding arising from the disposal of the redundant fire damaged stable block / yard (which was formerly used for staff accommodation).


·         Further details can be found in the Council’s statement of May 2019 which is on the Latest News tab of the Broomfield House page of the Council’s website, link below.


·         This feasibility work is programmed to be completed before the end of the financial year. The outcome of the feasibility work will be reported to  ...  view the full minutes text for item 11.