Agenda and minutes

Licensing Sub-Committee - Wednesday, 16th October, 2019 10.45 am

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Councillor Bond (Chair) welcomed all those present and explained the order of the meeting.




NOTED there were no declarations of interest.




RECEIVED the application made by Mr Metin Cengiz for the premises situated at Espresso & Co, 14 The Green, Winchmore Hill, N21 1AY for a New Premises Licence.




1.    The introduction by Ellie Green, Principal Licensing Officer, including:


a.    The application by Espresso & Co was for a new premises licence for a coffee shop at a premises which had been a few different businesses, but none had required a premises licence.

b.    The application sought opening hours from 07:30 to 22:30 daily, with alcohol on-sales 11:00 to 22:00. The garden was included in the plan to be attached to the licence and therefore only on supplies of alcohol were required.

c.    The applicant Mr Metin Cengiz was the proposed premises licence holder and designated premises supervisor.

d.    The Licensing Authority originally made representation in respect of conditions: these were agreed and the representation was subsequently withdrawn. The agreed list of conditions was set out in Annex 5 of the officer’s report.

e.    No other responsible authorities made representations.

f.     Five representations were received from other interested parties who were local residents: referred to as IP1 to IP5 and set out in Annex 3 of the report. The objections were based on all four licensing objectives, and the residents lived in The Old Dairy Square and The Green.

g.    The applicant had provided additional information in Annex 4 of the report.

h.    In attendance at the hearing were the applicant and his business partner, and IP2 on behalf of the local residents.


2.    The statement on behalf of the applicant, including:


a.    This property had been a coffee shop for over five years, and was currently a community coffee shop, where the newly reformed local residents’ association had held a meeting recently.

b.    The simple menu at the premises was shown. Their A1 licence meant food could be re-heated only. There was no extractor. However, the premises was located between two restaurants, and close to ‘The Larder’ which was licensed with an outside seating area and ran a regular supper club to 22:30. Espresso & Co had no wish to operate in a restaurant manner.

c.    No application had been made for any entertainment licence.

d.    The application was for alcohol to be consumed only on the premises. There would not be alcohol taken from the premises to The Green.

e.    Opening until 22:00 was anticipated only for an occasional community event, less than once per month, and evening garden use even less frequently. The normal coffee shop closing time was envisaged as 17:00 as at the moment.

f.     The proposed drinks menu was shown in the agenda pack. The business was a family run coffee shop, but customers may enjoy a glass of wine or gin and tonic to accompany a light meal. There would be promotion of local producers.

g.    The licence requirements would be taken seriously. Staff would be trained, alcohol sales carefully monitored, and no alcoholic drinks would leave the premises.

h.    The garden  ...  view the full minutes text for item 273.




RECEIVED the application made by Councillor Edward Smith for a review of the Premises Licence (LN/201801062) held by Fancy Fair Markets Limited at the premises situated at Bramley Sports Ground, Chase Side, London N14 4AB.




1.    The introduction by Ellie Green, Principal Licensing Officer, including:


a.    The application was for review of the premises licence at the land known as Bramley Road Sports Ground. The premises licence was held by Fancy Fair Markets Limited.

b.    The new premises licence was applied for in March 2019 this year and had received 151 representations, from local residents against the grant of the application. The application had been granted by the Licensing Sub-Committee, with reduced hours sought and additional conditions, as set out in Annex 2 of the report.

c.    The new premises licence was for a four day family event, including alcohol and regulated entertainment, to take place yearly Friday to Monday on the second bank holiday in May, with opening hours 10:00 to 21:00 and sales of alcohol to end half an hour before closing.

d.    This review application was made by Councillor Edward Smith, Cockfosters Ward Councillor, on behalf of and in consultation with local residents. The review was sought on all four licensing objectives, and the application was set out in Annex 3 of the report.

e.    The licence holder had responded to the review application as set out in Annex 4 of the report.

f.     All the responsible authorities had been consulted and no representations had been made in response to the application.

g.    The Chair of SAG had not submitted a representation, but provided comments as set out in para 3.5 of the report.

h.    There had been no other representation in support or against the application, but it was understood the review was brought in consultation with local residents and sought revocation of the licence in its entirety.

i.      It was for the Licensing Sub-Committee to consider whether the review application supported the four licensing objectives.


2.    The statement of Councillor Edward Smith, Cockfosters Ward Councillor, including:


a.    There were a large number of objections at the time of the premises licence application, and he was representing the objectors as there was a considerable degree of concern still about what happened at the event.

b.    He attended a debriefing meeting with local residents after the event which went through the problems that had arisen and concluded that a submission would be put forward to review and seek revocation of this licence.

c.    There was very thorough evidence from the residents and he agreed with their comments and that there were issues of major concern.

d.    The comments from the premises licence holders were not helpful in their tone, and he took exception having been a councillor for over 20 years.

e.    This event was not similar to the Winchmore Hill Fancy Fair event which was non profit making and frequented by local people as opposed to this commercial festival which attracted people from far  ...  view the full minutes text for item 274.