Agenda and minutes

Turkey Street Ward Forum
Wednesday, 15th July, 2015 7.30 pm

Venue: Ordnance Unity Centre, 645 Hertford Road, EN3 6ND

Items
No. Item

1.

WELCOME AND INTRODUCTIONS

Minutes:

Residents were welcomed to the meeting and the Councillors introduced themselves.

2.

APOLOGIES FOR ABSENCE

Minutes:

PC Mark Smedley, who was not on duty.

3.

NORTH EAST ENFIELD AREA ACTION PLAN pdf icon PDF 266 KB

See paper attached.

Minutes:

Councillor Simon introduced the paper, which set out the proposed changes to the text in the plan about the Northern Gateway Access Package, and which he saw as reducing the chance of a road solution that would minimise the heavy goods vehicle traffic on Bullsmoor Lane. There then followed a general discussion about issues relating to traffic in Bullsmoor Lane, in which the following points were made;

a.            Joan Ryan MP had convened a meeting with residents on 1 August to hear their views.

b.            The Transport Minister had met with residents before the election and had promised action.

c.            The council could consult the major distributors who might use the access road, especially Iceland, Sainsbury and Tesco, to seek their views on how to manage traffic in the area.

d.            It was wrong for the Council to have agreed plans for additional logistic hubs in the area.

e.            Air-pollution was very heavy in the area, especially as it was outside the London Low Emissions Area. Proper air-pollution measurements should be made, and this would form a strong case for a relief road.

f.             The key air quality problem was caused by stationary traffic and better traffic management would help to alleviate this.

g.            It was understood that further work was going to be undertaken on the lights’ phasing at the A10 junction. Councillors invited feedback from residents about how this works out.

h.            Residents objected to heavy good vehicles parking up on Bullsmoor Lane overnight, especially if they started up in the small hours. The exhausting of airbrakes was very noisy. It was said that there had been signs on the road limiting HGV hours but these have been removed. HGV parking restrictions should be reimposed.

i.              A particular problem area seemed to be the section outside Lea Valley High School to the pedestrian crossing. HGVs came too fast down the bridge slope and then had to brake sharply which was noisy and caused vibrations. There should be some method of calming traffic when it was free-flowing.

j.              Cars queueing at the pedestrian crossing might not see that the pedestrian light had gone green and the road sign red. There should be appropriate repeater lights.

k.            Residents complained that they had been given tickets for driving in the bus lane when they were trying to exit their houses, because of the unwillingness of other motorists to give way. There should be some discretion about this in appropriate cases.

l.              Some residents felt that the bus lane was empty most of the time, and that it led to additional queueing traffic which adversely affected their quality of life. The continuing case for the bus lanes, and their length, should be re-examined.

m.          It was suggested that the bridge had not undergone any heavy engineering works for over half a century and residents would appreciate assurance that it was still structurally sound.

n.            The drains on the road were very shallow which meant that they could be easily damaged.

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4.

ISSUES OF CONCERN TO RESIDENTS

Minutes:

a.            Illicit car sales in the area behind the flats on the Elsinge estate; residents were angry that despite this having been raised at two previous meetings, the problem was continuing, with sales not only of cars but also large commercial vehicles. They had counted 26 such vehicles recently, and rubbish was being emptied from the commercial vehicles and fly tipped. Petrol was being stored in a disused shed. Urgent action should be taken by Enfield Council Housing.

b.            Aylands open space; there was regular dumping of waste relating to catering, by the entrance to the park off Bullsmoor Lane, on Sunday evenings which had to be cleared by the flytip crew on Mondays. Enforcement action should be taken.

c.            Concern was expressed about the Community Hub at Albany Park, both in relation to whether it had successfully opened and whether the Council was claiming credit for the community garden which was in fact an initiative by a local charity

d.            Complaints were made about the A10 underpass at Bullsmoor Lane which was often smelly with urine, dog faeces, and general rubbish. There should be a regular cleaning and maintenance schedule.

e.            The walking route from the underpass to Capel Manor School was felt to be risky with no crossing patrol and inadequate islands and signage, particularly as drivers coming off the main roads tended to go too fast.

f.             The roads were not always swept after rubbish collection rather than before and it was suggested that Larmans Road was often swept the day before rubbish collection.

g.            There was a continuing problem with racing on the A10, which was understood to start in Hoddesdon. The police should be asked to make sure that speed cameras were active and to cooperate with Hertfordshire.

h.            There was a continuing problem of drug dealing in Bullsmoor Ride.

i.                    Residents asked for an update on the Waterworld site planning application.

5.

WARD SURGERIES AND FORUMS

Minutes:

The regular surgery would continue to be held every Saturday 1145 to 1245 at Ordnance Road library; one week in four it would be taken by an Enfield Lock councillor.

6.

MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETING

Minutes:

These were agreed; there were no matters arising.

7.

DATES OF FUTURE MEETINGS

To agree the proposed date of Monday 12 October, 7.30pm at Kempe Hall

 

Minutes:

It was planned to meet on Monday 12 October, 7.30pm at Kempe Hall. Unfortunately this has now had to be rearranged and the revised date and location is Boleyn Community Hall, St Martins Close, Enfield, EN1 4HW on Tuesday 17 November 2015 at 7.30pm.

8.

RESPONSES BY OFFICERS TO SELECTED ITEMS IN THE MINUTES

Minutes:

2.            NORTH EAST ENFIELD AREA ACTION PLAN

c.         The council should consult the major distributors who might use the access road, especially Iceland, Sainsbury and Tesco, to seek their views on how to manage traffic in the area.

The suggestion that the council could seek the view of major distributors such as supermarkets who might use the access road on how best to manage local traffic is an interesting one, which the council will consider.

e.            Air-pollution was very heavy in the area, especially as it was outside the London Low Emissions Area. Proper air-pollution measurements should be made, and this would form a strong case for a relief road.

It is acknowledged that air quality is a significant issue on Bullsmoor Lane and it has been defined as one of 10 air quality focus areas in the borough. A number of options are being considered as part of the on-going NGAP traffic study to address congestion and the impact of each option on air quality will be a key factor.

f.          The key air quality problem was caused by stationary traffic and better traffic management would help to alleviate this.

The council recognises that engine idling is an issue within the borough and this is a significant contributor to poor air quality.  The problem unfortunately, is also borough wide and is not exclusive to just one or two areas.  With this in mind, the council is currently looking at how it can address this issue, as well as looking at what other measures can be applied to improve air quality, particularly at locations where it is proven to be poor.  In the meantime if any stakeholders have any suggestions for potential measures, these will be gratefully received and appreciated.   

h.         Residents objected to heavy goods vehicles parking up on Bullsmoor Lane overnight, especially if they started up in the small hours. The exhausting of airbrakes was very noisy. It was said that there had been signs on the road limiting HGV hours but these have been removed. HGV parking restrictions should be reimposed. 

The Council has an enforceable Borough-wide commercial vehicle parking ban operating every night of the week between 1830 hours and 0800 hrs the following morning, affecting vehicles which are in excess of 5 tons gross vehicle weight or in excess of 12 seats including driver. There is no requirement for signage to be placed in every street to indicate that this ban is in place.

This request for enforcement has been added to our parking enforcement response unit list which directs the council’s parking contractor to areas which require additional enforcement. Any vehicles found to be in contravention of any parking regulations will, where possible, be issued with a Penalty Charge Notice (PCN). Residents could report any such parked-up vehicles to the Council’s Customer Services Centre on 020 8379 1000.

i.              A particular problem area seemed to be the section outside Lea Valley High School to the pedestrian crossing. HGVs came too  ...  view the full minutes text for item 8.